04-01-2018, 01:23 AM
I have answered for much of it. However I have added parts that were not said before.
1. I told you that all dealings with hioko were at a time where I felt I was being trolled and they do not pertain to this appeal anyway because they are before Geckorian got involved. Can I not tell a mod that I feel another mod is trying to troll me and then explain how I believe they are doing it?
2. " Also I don't think mods are supposed to turn off their msg and force you to talk in regular chat" I asked hieko on several occaisions to please turn on his msg. He would not do it, and persisted to force it into public chat. If you wont take my word for it you can look at those logs to. This is yet another reason why I felt I was being trolled by him. trying to explain to a mod that I feel I am being trolled is not wrong.
3. "I said I would wait until more honorable mods/ admins come online to move it." this right right here does suggest that Hioko, and maybe Geckorian, are not honorable. But if you sincerely believe your being trolled by a mod,
4. "why not just say nothing excessive" This is not Ignoring any of what she said. I simply asked why. This is not disrespectful nor is it bullying. And yes, But is there a problem with trying to explain something to someone to get your way. I'll say this, I was trying to get my way that entire time. But after the fact after being jailed, I was only trying to prove my innocence. Neither of these cases is overstepping my bounds. trying to convince people is not rude. If there were not people in this world to question why things are done then this world would be a pretty bad place. no not trying to force her into my way, but trying to make her look at her decision and think about it.
5. "There isn't any logic in this, there is 63 blocks below sea level" yes I stated to get frustrated here, but It is still trying to convince and is not a rude comment, or ignoring her, being directed towards her. Yes, here I am pushing the issue, but trying to convince someone, or make them think about their own rules, Is not against the rules. If they did not like it when I questioned their rules then they could have just told me to leave. I know what your going to say, She told you many times after to leave her town. No, She said if I did not like it there then to leave her town. She did not blatantly say leave until I was already jailed anyway. Might I explain where my frustration comes from. You say mark where Kitty is being ignored, please mark where I am being ignored. Also I had gathered Around 10 stacks of wood for Kitty. I had helped to clear space for her town. I did this out of kindness, and because I'm honest, I also did it for a little bit of sway later because she said she might let me build my other building in her town.
6. "I can make the basement at bedrock if need be" making a suggestion that I could make it at bedrock if she needed IS not Ignoring her. It is offering an alternative.
7. "ok, but why were u complaining about expanding?" About this line you said "This is the line you chose to listen to, and not even the whole thing. You literally must've only read the first two letters. This is not her saying "Yeah, okay, sure, go ahead and build a basement". This is her acknowledging that you've said something, and she is returning a response to what you have previously said. This is not her saying yes." It may not be Her saying yes, But is certainly appears to me as so. She said this after I gave the alternative of building it at bedrock. No you cannot accuse me of not reading the entire thing or only paying attention to the "ok" part. I read the entire thing because in the following messages below that I explain to her "why I was complaining about expanding." Clear intent is not written. The only way to avoid most misinterpretations is to be actually speaking with them. Emotions does not travel through text the same as speech. Only I can say How I felt at the time. Others can only say how they felt, and how they speculate I felt. as for what you said, "You are at fault for breaking the rules of Kitty's town, as you did do so knowingly and against her explicit instructions to not do what you did." This is false. As i explained. This clearly looks like She is giving me the go ahead, and "Why are you complaining about expanding," Does not suggest otherwise. Nothing suggests otherwise until later kitty claims she said no such thing after I began to do what I saw her tell me I could do. This is a misunderstanding, and you saying that I broke her rules knowing is a "blatant" falsehood.
8. She says "well I still don't want u exceeding the boundaries, if u want, I will build however many layers down u need" after I started the basement, note that I changed very little and did NOT continue to do so after she said I couldn't.
9. you then say "It's around now that you were jailed because you were not leaving her town after breaking her town rules." This is so false, I did not break her town rules. I saw her say I could and it was a misunderstanding. As soon as she told me to stop building I did. I then started to discuss this with her. Also at no point did she tell me to leave, She only said "if you don't like it here then leave." Geckorian would not let me explain this misunderstanding. I will admit however, I did not understand the magnitude of the misunderstanding until after and seeing the logs for myself.
10. Now about what I said about "communism." I was very disrespectful, that right there was on me, but, you need to understand my reasoning for this as well as the nice things I had done for this person before this incident. This I will apologize for. And as I said before, I am very honest and I will not apologize for anything I am not sorry for. And I am not sorry for anything I said Before the point where I said communism.
11. Kitty then says, "yes in a private msg many times. I said if he doesn't like it he can leave" Really, This is not a clear statement to leave. This gives me the option to prove my point. I tried to prove my point and that is ok. Yes I know saying "communism" was very wrong. But everything else was trying to prove my point which is ok. I was not told to leave. Remember the "If he doesn't like it" That is very important, and you just ignored it.
12. Geckorian told me, "Kitty has the right to set rules in her town. If you can't follow them you need to leave."I Stopped building as soon as she said not to do it. I was following her rules. There was a misunderstanding earlier, but that was quite a while before Geckorian tells me this. Yes, I was questioning her rules, But I was following them. I do not break Rules town owners set. But, I feel it is my right to question them. I should not have been jailed for it, I was following her rules, I added nothing after she told me not to. I even agreed to not change anything until she told me I could.
13. I told Geckorian, "also this isn't a mods ordeal." I only meant to tell him that we had it handled, I had already stopped building and we were figuring it out. I was not challenging his authority. This is when I was jailed.
14. I said " I cant be trespassing in my own house I bought" This is not a rude statement, why is it bolded? It is only part of my reasoning.
15. I then said, "Also, were working it out, why are you being nosy" I should not have said the being so nosy part. While it is not as bad as calling Kittys town communist, It is still something I must apologize for.
16. I don't understand how my two minor disrespect infractions constitute a ban or even a jailing. Also, With as polite as I tried to be throughout most of the situation, Why was it so ok at the time for the people to swear and me and saying awful things to me. I did not such thing, but many others did while I was in the jail only trying to prove myself innocent. Geckorian made no move to stop them at all, And this went on for a while. He had plenty of time to tell them not to do what they were doing. Again, I do appreciate Geckorian apologizing for calling me whinny.
Tell me with statements you agree, partially agree, or disagree with.
I am planning on apologizing to Kitty for saying her town was communist, and apologizing to Geckorian for saying that he was being nosy. I know it is a mods job to help, I just felt like we had it handled and were not in need of any help.
Also, I have Answered for all of your points, and Geckorian's points. Please answer mine.
1. I told you that all dealings with hioko were at a time where I felt I was being trolled and they do not pertain to this appeal anyway because they are before Geckorian got involved. Can I not tell a mod that I feel another mod is trying to troll me and then explain how I believe they are doing it?
2. " Also I don't think mods are supposed to turn off their msg and force you to talk in regular chat" I asked hieko on several occaisions to please turn on his msg. He would not do it, and persisted to force it into public chat. If you wont take my word for it you can look at those logs to. This is yet another reason why I felt I was being trolled by him. trying to explain to a mod that I feel I am being trolled is not wrong.
3. "I said I would wait until more honorable mods/ admins come online to move it." this right right here does suggest that Hioko, and maybe Geckorian, are not honorable. But if you sincerely believe your being trolled by a mod,
4. "why not just say nothing excessive" This is not Ignoring any of what she said. I simply asked why. This is not disrespectful nor is it bullying. And yes, But is there a problem with trying to explain something to someone to get your way. I'll say this, I was trying to get my way that entire time. But after the fact after being jailed, I was only trying to prove my innocence. Neither of these cases is overstepping my bounds. trying to convince people is not rude. If there were not people in this world to question why things are done then this world would be a pretty bad place. no not trying to force her into my way, but trying to make her look at her decision and think about it.
5. "There isn't any logic in this, there is 63 blocks below sea level" yes I stated to get frustrated here, but It is still trying to convince and is not a rude comment, or ignoring her, being directed towards her. Yes, here I am pushing the issue, but trying to convince someone, or make them think about their own rules, Is not against the rules. If they did not like it when I questioned their rules then they could have just told me to leave. I know what your going to say, She told you many times after to leave her town. No, She said if I did not like it there then to leave her town. She did not blatantly say leave until I was already jailed anyway. Might I explain where my frustration comes from. You say mark where Kitty is being ignored, please mark where I am being ignored. Also I had gathered Around 10 stacks of wood for Kitty. I had helped to clear space for her town. I did this out of kindness, and because I'm honest, I also did it for a little bit of sway later because she said she might let me build my other building in her town.
6. "I can make the basement at bedrock if need be" making a suggestion that I could make it at bedrock if she needed IS not Ignoring her. It is offering an alternative.
7. "ok, but why were u complaining about expanding?" About this line you said "This is the line you chose to listen to, and not even the whole thing. You literally must've only read the first two letters. This is not her saying "Yeah, okay, sure, go ahead and build a basement". This is her acknowledging that you've said something, and she is returning a response to what you have previously said. This is not her saying yes." It may not be Her saying yes, But is certainly appears to me as so. She said this after I gave the alternative of building it at bedrock. No you cannot accuse me of not reading the entire thing or only paying attention to the "ok" part. I read the entire thing because in the following messages below that I explain to her "why I was complaining about expanding." Clear intent is not written. The only way to avoid most misinterpretations is to be actually speaking with them. Emotions does not travel through text the same as speech. Only I can say How I felt at the time. Others can only say how they felt, and how they speculate I felt. as for what you said, "You are at fault for breaking the rules of Kitty's town, as you did do so knowingly and against her explicit instructions to not do what you did." This is false. As i explained. This clearly looks like She is giving me the go ahead, and "Why are you complaining about expanding," Does not suggest otherwise. Nothing suggests otherwise until later kitty claims she said no such thing after I began to do what I saw her tell me I could do. This is a misunderstanding, and you saying that I broke her rules knowing is a "blatant" falsehood.
8. She says "well I still don't want u exceeding the boundaries, if u want, I will build however many layers down u need" after I started the basement, note that I changed very little and did NOT continue to do so after she said I couldn't.
9. you then say "It's around now that you were jailed because you were not leaving her town after breaking her town rules." This is so false, I did not break her town rules. I saw her say I could and it was a misunderstanding. As soon as she told me to stop building I did. I then started to discuss this with her. Also at no point did she tell me to leave, She only said "if you don't like it here then leave." Geckorian would not let me explain this misunderstanding. I will admit however, I did not understand the magnitude of the misunderstanding until after and seeing the logs for myself.
10. Now about what I said about "communism." I was very disrespectful, that right there was on me, but, you need to understand my reasoning for this as well as the nice things I had done for this person before this incident. This I will apologize for. And as I said before, I am very honest and I will not apologize for anything I am not sorry for. And I am not sorry for anything I said Before the point where I said communism.
11. Kitty then says, "yes in a private msg many times. I said if he doesn't like it he can leave" Really, This is not a clear statement to leave. This gives me the option to prove my point. I tried to prove my point and that is ok. Yes I know saying "communism" was very wrong. But everything else was trying to prove my point which is ok. I was not told to leave. Remember the "If he doesn't like it" That is very important, and you just ignored it.
12. Geckorian told me, "Kitty has the right to set rules in her town. If you can't follow them you need to leave."I Stopped building as soon as she said not to do it. I was following her rules. There was a misunderstanding earlier, but that was quite a while before Geckorian tells me this. Yes, I was questioning her rules, But I was following them. I do not break Rules town owners set. But, I feel it is my right to question them. I should not have been jailed for it, I was following her rules, I added nothing after she told me not to. I even agreed to not change anything until she told me I could.
13. I told Geckorian, "also this isn't a mods ordeal." I only meant to tell him that we had it handled, I had already stopped building and we were figuring it out. I was not challenging his authority. This is when I was jailed.
14. I said " I cant be trespassing in my own house I bought" This is not a rude statement, why is it bolded? It is only part of my reasoning.
15. I then said, "Also, were working it out, why are you being nosy" I should not have said the being so nosy part. While it is not as bad as calling Kittys town communist, It is still something I must apologize for.
16. I don't understand how my two minor disrespect infractions constitute a ban or even a jailing. Also, With as polite as I tried to be throughout most of the situation, Why was it so ok at the time for the people to swear and me and saying awful things to me. I did not such thing, but many others did while I was in the jail only trying to prove myself innocent. Geckorian made no move to stop them at all, And this went on for a while. He had plenty of time to tell them not to do what they were doing. Again, I do appreciate Geckorian apologizing for calling me whinny.
Tell me with statements you agree, partially agree, or disagree with.
I am planning on apologizing to Kitty for saying her town was communist, and apologizing to Geckorian for saying that he was being nosy. I know it is a mods job to help, I just felt like we had it handled and were not in need of any help.
Also, I have Answered for all of your points, and Geckorian's points. Please answer mine.