[Nether_Ruler]

1. My "irrelevant" comment was referencing you saying that you've witnessed Jorah being rude to other players before, not regarding your DMs with him. My point about your DMs with him was that if you had any issue with it, the DM should have been brought to us. I said, "if what he said truly bothered you, it should've been addressed then and there. Staff don't police DM's, so if you have an issue with something that is said in one, it's on you to bring it up to one of us so we can deal with it." Which, the way I see it, is exactly what Dorito did. I apologize if you feel that posting your DM was an invasion of your privacy, but I did it with the full consent of Dorito, which was enough for me. Aside from that, regardless of how you feel about it, what you say you meant by your message was exactly my point of what is not allowed. Asking players to advocate on your behalf about a ban is not permitted, no matter the context in which you meant it. Whether that's messaging staff asking to get unbanned, logging onto the server with an alt, or asking a player to do a demonstration, none of it is allowed. 

In reference to Dorito's opinion still being valued: I was not aware that he talked behind our backs, but honestly, I don't see how that pertains to this situation, nor am I sure what "opinion" of Dorito's you think we took into consideration. He forwarded a message, nothing more. Anything I took from the message was based on its contents, not anything Dorito said. However, if you feel that I somehow missed something in the screenshot that I used, you are more than welcome to defend it, that's the point of this appeal. I am not stopping you from bringing your own screenshots here to defend yourself (or even directly messaged to me, if you aren't comfortable posting them here). However, until I see any proof that what you said was taken out of context and there's more to the situation than I could see, I'm going to use the evidence that I have presented to me. 

For the rest of the stuff you mentioned about Dorito, it's out of my scope to discuss, since it's about your relationship with him, but he did want to say something about it.
(For clarification's sake, Dorito gave me his express consent to post this message on his behalf). 

I'm unsure why you felt the need to throw Dorito under the bus by mentioning that he talked behind our backs, but I want it known that it's pretty well known that a lot of players talk behind our backs. As I mentioned in my first reply, not everyone is going to like us, and that's ok. Players are going to be frustrated by our decisions, and that is ok. Most people have no idea 95% of the stuff that goes on behind the scenes, all they see is what they want to see, and that is ok. It's a bummer it happens, but it's not a shock and it's also not an issue that needs to be resolved or settled here. 

2. I'm not going to argue the semantics over the definition of harassment. The fact of the matter is, you made a player feel uncomfortable, and that's enough. You saying it wasn't the reason you were banned is a poor excuse, and does not make it right or ok. It was used as an example of you hassling other players (if harassment is too strong a word). You're allowed to joke, and no one is stopping you from doing so, but the jokes need to be appropriate and aimed at the right audience. It would have been different if Dorito made the joke. Dorito and Pnut are friends, and that's the contrast. Was I partially to blame for suggesting to you that Pnut reported you? Yes. Does it excuse your behavior or absolve you from blame? Absolutely not. You still made the conscious decision to confront them about it, and I made the conscious mistake of trusting you with information you couldn't be trusted with. Pnut did not go to you because they did not want to interact with you. Pnut came to me, and I offered to do something about it, to which they declined. 

3. When I mentioned you were asked politely not to make jokes about it, I was referencing the Diddy stuff, not the x-ray joke. I hadn't known about the x-ray joke conversation until I was writing out my response to your appeal. It is not against the rules to make jokes, but it's against the rules to be a nuisance. Several people were telling you it was annoying, and the fact that they're not staff shouldn't change that. Staff can not, and should not, be expected to be online 24/7 to hold the hands of players who don't know when a joke has gone too far. Sometimes other players know what's up, and you're allowed to listen to what they say. Just because they're not staff doesn't mean you should disregard their opinions. Should non-staff be acting in the role of staff? No. But at least have the decency to realize (or if not realize, then listen when someone tells you) when you're pushing it and being a disturbance to the peace of other players. They could have used /ignore, absolutely, but the existence of /ignore does not give everyone else the right to be a botheration.

4. I'm not sure where Pnut mentioned that you tried to constantly message them, nor can I find anywhere either of us said that. 

5. Your first screenshots with your DMs with Jorah are from the beginning of October (the 6th), so I'm not sure how my using a screenshot from 11 days before that is that much of a stretch. It's not like I'm digging back years here. You joined the server a bit over a month ago (September 15th). As for the private messages. Ignoring the fact that you also used private messages without the permission of both individuals, the one I used was also completely relevant to the situation. I apologize if you feel targeted, and I can see how you feel that way, don't get me wrong, but I want you to know that this isn't the case. The reason I'm showing you all these conversations is not to pull a "gotcha!" and shove it in your face, but to try and help you understand how you've affected other people and how the things you say that may be funny to you aren't to others. We were not looking for a reason to ban you, but we are going to use everything we have to justify your ban, the same way you can use everything you have to defend it. 

6. Not entirely true. The first occasion (the first instance of you addressing Jorah) was here:

It was after this that the first instance you mentioned (of you responding to Jorah when you thought he was talking to you) happened, which then devolved into a whole discussion. There was then a short break, and then Jorah mentioned to not grief because you said something about it as a joke. Honestly, I would argue that he wasn't even talking to you, just mentioned to not grief because it could get someone else banned, but that's neither here nor there. Yes, he commented to you afterward about you stalking him. Was it right? Absolutely not. Did he face consequences for his actions? Yes. I'm not here to defend what he said. What he said was wrong, and it was appropriately addressed in his appeal. 

7. I mentioned that you started pinging him on his server. That is the information that I was given, and it is the information that I mentioned in my first reply, "but you also found his years-old Twitch AND Discord server linked to it just to start pinging him." As with the Dorito situation, if you would like to present something to me that proves otherwise, or explain the situation further, you'll find I am very receptive. I'm not sure how you concluded that I intentionally left something out ("which i wonder why you didn't mention that that is all i said in the discord. makes me think."), since I've been nothing but open this entire process, but do keep in mind that I'm not purposefully occluding information to shine you in a worse light. If you feel that harassment is too strong of a word, I'm happy to use another one. How's provocation?

"the takeaway is, i do take responsibility for what i did. sure. but i will not let you pull out of context dms and 2 text messages from september to use to make me seem like a horrible person to whoever will read this post. that is a poor and UNTRUE display of my character. sure, i love a good time and to joke around and i have gotten into this one predicament but that does not mean you can leak my messages publicly (regardless of what they say)."

Are you even taking responsibility for what you did? The only thing you admitted doing and didn't defend was joining Jorah's Discord server, and even that was under the pretense of "If you consider this harassment, then yeah I guess I did it." 

As for making you out to be a horrible person, the only screenshot I used that I did not share the entire conversation was that screenshot that Dorito sent me since I don't have access to the entire thing. That is also the only private message I used against you. Everything else I either showed or linked in its entirety and can also be found publicly through #server-chat. So if you feel like you're being made out to be a horrible person, I fail to see how that's my doing. 

Regarding sharing your message with Dorito, the only way to say this is to say it bluntly: anything you say can be shared. Nothing is stopping anyone from screenshotting everything you have ever said to them and sharing it publicly. Does it diminish trust? Sure. Is it a crappy thing to do in the wrong context? Definitely. But I'm not going to take the excuse of "it was private, and you can't share my private conversations." I do my best to be as polite as possible when sharing DMs, I asked Dorito if I could use that screenshot, but at the end of the day the fact of the matter is the only right to privacy you have is choosing what you decide to put into writing.

Aside from all that, isn't your point about not sharing DMs with another player a little hypocritical? The very start of your appeal is sharing DMs that you had with Jorah. You did not have his permission to do so. So, either DMs can be shared as long as one person consents to it, or they can't be shared at all. You can't come at me for doing something when you did the very same.

Again, if you think there's more context to that DM to Dorito that would shine you in a better light if you shared, please feel free. The messages from September are completely relevant, and the excuse of "Oh it happened last month!" is a poor one at best, and completely extraneous at worst. You do not decide the duration of evidence I am allowed to present, and even if you were, a conversation string from less than half a month ago is perfectly reasonable to be shared. As I mentioned before, it's not like I'm digging through years of stuff here just to throw in your face. People change over time, yes, but a thread from a bit over a month ago isn't a stretch whatsoever. 

"i do think what i said to jorah could have been done better, but i will continue to be an advocate for myself and my character."

I actively encourage you to advocate for yourself, and you're 100% right that what you said to Jorah could've been done better (or better yet, not at all).